I was wondering if anyone (in Europe or elsewhere) uses this, I have it in my all my bikes w-out any issues. Need to get more as it ran out, available in Europe only. It's supposed to "prolunga la vita del motore"...
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No, not needed for any of my motorcycles.
I don’t use it. But it’s available on Amazon. If I wanted better smoother shifts I would just use a more expensive motorcycle oil like Mobil 1 4T 10W-40 rather than Rotella T6 which is what I currently use. My bike shifts just fine using Rotella T6.
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If a well maintained ST will go 3 - 400,000 miles w/o any special additives, how much of a benefit do you expect from this or any other additive?
Back in the 90's, a moly additive was considered hot stuff to add to older Moto Guzzi final drive oil. Was it necessary? Did it prolong the final drive's life? I don't know.
Back in the 90's, a moly additive was considered hot stuff to add to older Moto Guzzi final drive oil. Was it necessary? Did it prolong the final drive's life? I don't know.
Snake oil. Automotive supply shelves are full of products that promise one thing or another, but the real promise is in the profits for the dealer.
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Something to ponder.
Engine oil has become and is a very sophisticated product now with chemical engineers who do nothing but specialize in the chemistry of lubricating oils. It has become so sophisticated that automobile/engine manufacturers now often send the specifications of a new engine that they are designing to these chemical engineers who analyze the design and tell the engine manufacturer what engine oil is best suited for that engine.
Some of the additives that a person might add to engine oil may upset the chemical balance working against the properties of the original oil and actually result in lowering the protection rather than improving it.
Engine oil has become and is a very sophisticated product now with chemical engineers who do nothing but specialize in the chemistry of lubricating oils. It has become so sophisticated that automobile/engine manufacturers now often send the specifications of a new engine that they are designing to these chemical engineers who analyze the design and tell the engine manufacturer what engine oil is best suited for that engine.
Some of the additives that a person might add to engine oil may upset the chemical balance working against the properties of the original oil and actually result in lowering the protection rather than improving it.
we spend endless hours debating it.
Do they still make "Slick 50"? That was the rage in the late 80s/early 90s.
Save yer money! Or try some of this.........
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A "very sophisticated product" indeed. Here's my story: this past spring, I changed the oil routinely on my 2016 VFR 1200X. This bike has a dual clutch transmission. Although I had previously used Motul 5100 10w40,(semi-synthetic) this time I used Honda mineral oil, 10w40. As time went on, I became aware of a troubling increase of "klunky" shifting. Unlike a number of other Honda DCT models, this one required a dealer connection from the bike to Honda's system, using a laptop to perform a re-flash. That got done, but any improvement I noticed, was negligible. Happened to have a conversation later with one of the WoodSToc attendees about my troubles. (well after, not during the rally) He related a story of a malfunctioning differential in a four wheeler, which was remedied with changing to the correct oil. (Thanks Brent) The local Honda dealer didn't have any suggestions, so here's what I did - changed the oil! Used Motul 7100 (full synthetic) 10w30 . My owner's manual specifies 10w30. Just completed this yesterday, and went for a half hour ride around town, with lots of shifting, both in road and sport modes. No more klunk! Although the shifts aren't perfect or like new, they're much improved. From the Motul site: Synthetic technology 4-Stroke lubricant – Ester technology - Meets bike manufacturer specifications, especially HONDA which recommends SAE 10W30 for fuel economy improvement. Smooth shifting. Improved shear resistance. Meets JASO MA2 specifications for optimal wet clutch performance.
So do pay attention to manufacturer's recommendations!
So do pay attention to manufacturer's recommendations!
Auto manufactures put out TSB's stating do not use oil additives. Amsoil did testing and this was their results.
https://blog.amsoil.com/do-motor-oil-additives-work/
surprised this hasn't been mentioned already, but isn't Molybdenum Disulfide (MoS2) exactly what we don't want in the oil of a wet clutch system because of clutch slippage issues?
maybe it contains a very small amount that won't affect the clutch, even though its prominently displayed on the label.
maybe it contains a very small amount that won't affect the clutch, even though its prominently displayed on the label.
there’s a reason STP oil additive isn’t advertised anymore.
Are they using MoS2 ? Yes I see they are. That will build up on the clutch plates. I'm surprised they use that. I did a search on their website and they do not recommend that for my bike when searching for available products. But I wouldn't use it anyway.
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That was my first thought when I read the post, but @draser said he has used it in 'all my bikes' without problems. I concluded that either he is lucky or there is not enough moly in the additive to be a problem. And I have said several times that I think additives are unnecessary. To each his own.
Now strapping a magnet to the fuel line to boost your mpg is a horse of a different color.
