Wearable Motorcycle Air Bags

Upt' North said:
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As a qualified & signed up First Responder... I agree completely.

I've seen my fair share of road accidents, single & multi vehicle. An air bag isn't worth the money, in my eyes.
 
MaxPete said:
Well, I cannot imagine that the authorities who sanction and operate high level motorcycle racing would make airbags mandatory - if they were useless.

Anyhow, as was stated, to each his own.
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Whereas I don't have an airbag and have never thought of one, after reading this post I'm going to look into one.
I agree if the motorcycling racing industry is mandating them there is something to them (airbags).
 
It's going to be interesting to see where this all goes in the coming years. I have a hit air vest (use to have a hit air jacket - Motorrad 2) and after reading as much as I could on them I think they will benefit me in a crash. The response times...and effectiveness in varying crash scenarios is getting better and better as more manufacturers are getting involved. The lanyard system is all I can afford right now but the Dainese response times are crazy fast. I just don't like their setup as it lacks the ability to go from one jacket to another. I suspect our kids are going to laugh at us in a few years when we tell them we use to have to attach a spiral cord to the bike in order to make it work. On a side note I bought mine used ....never deployed....for $125 CAD.
Anyone have much knowledge on the motogp setups? I heard they aren't mandated to wear them in qualifying....hence the reason you see riders running to the pits for their backup bikes after suffering an off. If they were wearing one during qualifying their system would inflate and they'd be struggling to get to a backup bike in such a small window of opportunity.
 
If you read the MotoGP link you’ll see they have to wear them all the time, even for qualifying rounds.


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I think a Goldwing airbag is the gold standard (no pun intended) that I would combine with a Helite or Hit Air. If you are rear ended of if you fall of the bike the Wings airbag would be worthless to you. The inflation speed is needed when a rider hits the car that made a left turn in front of him.

I'm just not sure I want a Goldwing, and I know I would rather not spend the money. I do all day rides but no distance rides. I trailer to events. Honda patented an airbag system for a NC750, but I can't find anything since the articles were published. I'm going to take a look at a D-Air when they come out at the end of the month.
 
PFD023 said:
I'm not even sure how to respond to this. So I won't. To each his own.
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Yet you did.

In a racing accident, the rider rarely comes to an abrupt stop, and never has to think about road furniture. In these scenarios, where the only real issue is sliding along tarmac/gravel/grass, a worn airbag makes loads of sense.

In a road situation, coming off the bike isn't the problem. The issue is what happens after the initial impact.

I agree, each to his own. I don't ride on a race circuit, and as such, would rather invest the money where I think it'll benefit me.

Of course, in the future, the authorities may decide for me, and mandate their use much like helmets. We're not there yet though, so you guys can be the "test pilots" and I'll observe.
 
Just heard on the LA news, cager lucked out when a 2x4 came thru his windshield.

Some things are preventable, others not. Air bag can handle some better than nothing, and in other cases is unable.
 
ad.hom said:
Yet you did.

In a racing accident, the rider rarely comes to an abrupt stop, and never has to think about road furniture. In these scenarios, where the only real issue is sliding along tarmac/gravel/grass, a worn airbag makes loads of sense.

In a road situation, coming off the bike isn't the problem. The issue is what happens after the initial impact.

I agree, each to his own. I don't ride on a race circuit, and as such, would rather invest the money where I think it'll benefit me.

Of course, in the future, the authorities may decide for me, and mandate their use much like helmets. We're not there yet though, so you guys can be the "test pilots" and I'll observe.
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Mr.Hom, I am pleased you put the professional first responder case forward, they pretty much mirror my views (those reached after 30 plus years of attending KSI RTC's) that your protection pounds may be better spent. I do stress though, MAY. I wonder if there is an element of riders feeling safer wearing air systems that give them the confidence to go and ride, which can't be a bad thing.
With regards to the MotoGP argument, which I didn't include in my other response because it simply muddies the waters but I did mention that they may be helpful in certain scenarios, which could obviously be race related.
Your points are valid and again if we argue that what is good on a race scenario is good on the road we would be wearing helmets, gloves, firesuits etc to get the groceries in the Ford F150.
I believe this discussion is a valuable one but they certainly require much more rigorous testing in real world environments before any benefit can be claimed.
The legislation issue is a dangerous one, some government or unpaid bureaucrat would love to push this law through the EU with worldwide implications. The French would love to pass one more motorcycle specific law just to be different.
It's strange isn't it, that here we are having an intelligent, but not informed debate on an item of protection that may or may not help prevent injury in a certain scenario, yet on another day other members will be discussing why to wear motorcycle boot or gloves that are CE approved when they've managed for the last 40 years in rigger gloves and waterproof walking boots.
Vive La Difference.
Upt'North.
 
st11ray said:
Some people have died from Takata airbags?
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Ray, don't know if it was a statement or a question, but yes there has been an airbag recall for some time, Honda cars are badly affected amongst others. Some bags have been known to have defective firing mechanisms which when fired dislodge metal shards that get fired straight at the occupants. I don't know how common the fault is but the global recalls enormous and will take years to complete.
Upt'North.
 
Upt' North said:
Ray, don't know if it was a statement or a question, but yes there has been an airbag recall for some time, Honda cars are badly affected amongst others. Some bags have been known to have defective firing mechanisms which when fired dislodge metal shards that get fired straight at the occupants. I don't know how common the fault is but the global recalls enormous and will take years to complete.
Upt'North.
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It was sarcasm. My phone won't let me add the emojis. Both my Honda and Subaru have had Takatas replaced.
 
As a counter to offer just another view from being involved in EMS (1985) for a while a EMT/Paramedic for most of that, they do work and have even run into a guy who crashed wearing one that swears it saved his bacon. If you don't like them that is fine too. You see them deployed in MOTOGP, WSBK etc. all the time.
Watch one of the videos that I found.

 
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