Láser Detectors

TPadden said:
Good luck with that; no such thing as personal time. Conviction or not, the officer is on the paid clock for on duty court :cool:.
Even better off duty: any court appearance off shift was automatic minimum 2 hours overtime (3 hours pay) even when it took only 15 minutes. Court required??? Sign here and have a nice day :rofl1:.

Tom
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Good to know. I was thinking the officer may not want to have the hassle of a court appearance. I'll take it as true that the officer may actually prefer to have court dates.

My other point about assuring a court date is when tickets are being used to generate revenue. A court requirements will make a ticket cost the community instead of getting a profit. Anyone have any insight on that? If you are tagged in a speed trap obviously set up to make money, will the officer decide it isn't worth it if they know the ticket is a loser?
 
mudduc said:
My other point ... If you are tagged in a speed trap obviously set up to make money, will the officer decide it isn't worth it if they know the ticket is a loser?
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Another misunderstood point: any officer making a traffic stop doesn't know or care one bit about revenue or where it goes. He is mostly interested in individual job performance: personal satisfaction and supervisor approval.

Tom
 
TPadden said:
Another misunderstood point: any officer making a traffic stop doesn't know or care one bit about revenue or where it goes. He is mostly interested in individual job performance: personal satisfaction and supervisor approval.

Tom
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An awful lot of government is paid for out of fees, fines, and court costs. It is but uncommon for a district attorney's office to be funded only 50% or less by the legislature. Police departments get they're budgets from cities and counties that rely on the same for their revenue.

Now, let's say the actual officer at your window doesn't know this publicly available fact that is well known in government circles. He's just working for his supervisor's approval, which he obtained by don't what his supervisor requires. That requirement goes up the chain to the chief who has to satisfy whoever gives him money, whether that's the legislature, the county board, the mayor, the court system, or some combination thereof. If a police chief actually eradicated crime, would they find ways to write tickets or would they lay off the police force?
 
OkieRider said:
Now, let's say the actual officer at your window doesn't know this publicly available fact that is well known in government circles.... If a police chief actually eradicated crime, would they find ways to write tickets or would they lay off the police force?
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Do you know of any case since Cain killed Abel, where anyone actually eradicated crime? :rolleyes:

The actual officer at your window know's crime will never be eradicated and human nature will forever provide job security. He just has to decide whether or not he thinks you deserve a ticket...:shrug2:

Tom
 
I'm looking at the Cobra Rad 480I Just for goofs and giggles! It's abouy$150, which is less than my speeding ticket was, and another degree of warning can't hurt. The rad has great ratings. Years ago, my radar kept beeping. Well, I caught up to a trooper!
What is neat also, is that it's bluetooth, so the alarm should head into my earbuds.
 
TPadden said:
Do you know of any case since Cain killed Abel, where anyone actually eradicated crime? :rolleyes:

The actual officer at your window know's crime will never be eradicated and human nature will forever provide job security. He just has to decide whether or not he thinks you deserve a ticket...:shrug2:

Tom
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It would be difficult to miss the point by a wider margin.
 
OkieRider said:
It would be difficult to miss the point by a wider margin.
...if a police chief actually eradicated crime, would they find ways to write tickets or would they lay off the police force?
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I agree that we have digressed and will try to be more specific in reply. :thumb:

You have asked a pointless question... but if a police chief actually eradicated crime they would defund the police. Taxpaying residents, not police chiefs, make final funding decisions. There are plenty of low crime municipalities that rely on federal, state, or county officials for what little law enforcement they desire/ require.

Tom
 
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Hey, let us know how that goes for you in Belurus or Russia if you're looking to speed on the "The European Continent" or if you're gonna speed, I mean, tour your home continent, well, better have some serious bribe money...:wasntme:

Hey, is this dude trolling us???:fish1:
 
Uncle Phil said:
So they are on some 'A' roads as well?
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Yep.

The thinking really, boils down to "if someone is late for work, they'll take the most direct route. Just the same as people towing caravans etc. Get enough of those constantly watching the speedo, and it doesn't matter where anyone joins/leaves the system... they'll be contending with traffic anyway."

I've not yet seen a camera on our B roads.

Those of us that want to play, will happily play on much more technical roads, at lower speeds.
 
My method of ticket avoidance is absolutely fool-proof and completely free. I don't exceed the speed limit by more than 10%. It's worked perfectly for the last 35 years. Admittedly, since I got the ST I have to monitor my speed a lot more ;)
 
I find that leaving WAZE app up and running is very helpful. Alerts when to police are around from crowd sharing. Not very helpful in remote areas but has been helpful for debris on the road reports and traffic jams ahead.
 
gbrand42 said:
I don't exceed the speed limit by more than 10%.
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Congrats!
10% is a challenge, the sensitivity of the throttle on the ST is like keeping a young dog on leash.
A slight move on the handle and you are already a way too fast, ah...
 
mlheck said:
The newer GPS based radar detectors also have a data base of where speed cameras and timing devices are located.
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That is useful for roads you ride on constantly. Does little to no good in newly travelled areas (other than the uploadable database) which the OP is contemplating. I was riding in an out of town friend's car recently. He has the latest and greatest (by published tests)
Escort detector. It is a smart one, loaded with all the known locations. It was going off constantly in my city. He finally shut it off. It was somewhat useful on the open road from his town to mine, but once he got here it served no purpose other than annoyance.
 
I asked a friend who was a Washington State Patrol sergeant about laser detectors. His face brightened up and he said the laser detector lets you be the second person to know you're getting a ticket.
 
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