Two new nt1100's just popped up for sale in San Diego.

Well folks, she is in the barn with the other girlfriends. We will see how they all get along. First impression ride in the 8 eight miles home through rush hour traffic, is I got a lot of owners manual to read. It will be interesting how the muscle memory reacts to no clutch and foot shifter. I found myself wanting to manually down shift with a clutch to slow down. Will get her out in the country for experimental rides to determine which settings are going to fit my riding style and how easy it is to change on the fly. Then of course switching from one the NT to the FJR will be interesting.

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Nice bike collection! I’m sure they will all get along together. As for muscle memory, it pretty quickly won’t be a big deal- I have 2 STs and the Silverwing (CVT scooter)- I can switch one to the other and there’s no ‘looking for the clutch handle’ any longer with the scooter. Back on the ST, it’s like I was never off the bike. You learn quickly. The only thing that (to me) would be more intuitive would be to eliminate the foot brake and put a brake handle for F/R brakes on the left and F brake on the right (same setup as the SWing)- at the beginning I did grab the brake handle as a clutch, but that went away really quickly.
 
Wow, nice stable.
May I suggest trying the downshift lever while in auto. Looking forward to your FJR comparison.
 
Like Erdoc I switch back and forth between manual shift CB and no shift NC DCT and there is no issue.

It took probably a week or two to quit ocassionally reaching for the clutch lever that isn't there, when coming up on a stop sign. After that it's just riding bliss with the DCT.
 
It is amazing how elastic our brains are. The key is riding the new machine regularly to ingrain new control positions & functions and train the brain. During this time do not worry about forgetting how to ride the FJR or any manual transmission bike. As soon as you throw a leg over the manual bike it will all come back. About all I do now and then on my DCT bikes is twitch my left foot lever when going from N to 1st. That one stub program in my subconscious memory is persistent after 10 years of riding manual, CVT, and DCT bikes. We are indeed fearfully and wonderfully made.

Enjoy!!
 
Very nice Chuck. Enjoy the new ride and give us a review after a few thousand miles. I suppose now you have to have a red wrap made to match the others in the barn.
 
Advice on living happily with a DCT (from living with mine and being a reading member of the NC 750X forum for the last 4 years)

1) Always wait until it reaches slow idle (not fast idle when first started) to put the bike into drive) it's easier on the shift pin
2) Always put it in Neutral with the button before turning the engine off (it's easier on the clutches)
3) Always turn the engine off with the ignition key and not the emergency kill switch or the side stand
4) The DCT takes a strong battery. You won't have to worry about this for a few years, but a weak battery can lead to shifting issues
 
the Ferret said:
Advice on living happily with a DCT (from living with mine and being a reading member of the NC 750X forum for the last 4 years)

1) Always wait until it reaches slow idle (not fast idle when first started) to put the bike into drive) it's easier on the shift pin
2) Always put it in Neutral with the button before turning the engine off (it's easier on the clutches)
3) Always turn the engine off with the ignition key and not the emergency kill switch or the side stand
4) The DCT takes a strong battery. You won't have to worry about this for a few years, but a weak battery can lead to shifting issues
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Why #3 above? I usually stop my bikes this way by putting the side stand down (although not DCT bikes). This way I know it’s in gear and the bike won’t roll.
 
Erdoc48 said:
Why #3 above? I usually stop my bikes this way by putting the side stand down (although not DCT bikes). This way I know it’s in gear and the bike won’t roll.
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With DCT there is the slim possibility that killing the engine with side stand/kill switch is the transmission will not shift to N when switched back on sort of like killing a manual in a gear and then having a little trouble getting it in N without rocking the bike back n forth a little to line up the dogs. If it is not in N then it's a no-start because an interlock requires N to crank the engine. There is no leaving DCT "in gear to prevent rolling" as engine oil pressure is used to disengage the clutch plates. No oil pressure, plates do not engage, bike will roll on inclines. Honda provides a parking brake lever.

To #1, one hundred thousand miles on DCTs and I never wait to warm it up. Start, drop in gear and go, no worries.
 
As a non-DCT afficianado, and no seat time on any, I too wonder about not using the engine cutoff switch?
Is there a mechanical justification, or just preference?
(And no, Dave, I'm not afraid of it. Just don't want it, no interest at this time.)

EDIT: you answered as I was typing.
 
Sadlsor said:
As a non-DCT afficianado, and no seat time on any, I too wonder about not using the engine cutoff switch?
Is there a mechanical justification, or just preference?
(And no, Dave, I'm not afraid of it. Just don't want it, no interest at this time.)

EDIT: you answered as I was typing.
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I get that you are firm in your transmission preference by repeatedly complaining that one day you will "have no choice" if others buy automated shift motorcycles. From my POV it's clear you don't want any one else to have that choice in order for you to have your way.

Note I only pointed out here and elsewhere that there are trainloads of manual transmission motorcycles to choose from in the market and currently just 1 2025 DCT only motorcycle for sale in the USA and if people buy that one than you won't have a choice to buy a manual. That is insecurity.
 
dduelin said:
With DCT there is the slim possibility that killing the engine with side stand/kill switch is the transmission will not shift to N when switched back on sort of like killing a manual in a gear and then having a little trouble getting it in N without rocking the bike back n forth a little to line up the dogs. If it is not in N then it's a no-start because an interlock requires N to crank the engine. There is no leaving DCT "in gear to prevent rolling" as engine oil pressure is used to disengage the clutch plates. No oil pressure, plates do not engage, bike will roll on inclines. Honda provides a parking brake lever.

To #1, one hundred thousand miles on DCTs and I never wait to warm it up. Start, drop in gear and go, no worries.
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I was advised against doing that by the head tech at our local shop with 30 years+ experience. He claimed it was hard on the shift pin which I know some guys have had to replace. It takes 2 mins and 30 secs for mine to go from high idle to low idle. I use that time to put on my helmet and gloves.
 
Interesting tips to follow as I have not finished reading the Operators manual. Thanks guys. Just now got the pannier mounting brackets installed. Reinstalling the side covers was an exercise in my patience
 
dduelin said:
With DCT there is the slim possibility that killing the engine with side stand/kill switch is the transmission will not shift to N when switched back on sort of like killing a manual in a gear and then having a little trouble getting it in N without rocking the bike back n forth a little to line up the dogs. If it is not in N then it's a no-start because an interlock requires N to crank the engine. There is no leaving DCT "in gear to prevent rolling" as engine oil pressure is used to disengage the clutch plates. No oil pressure, plates do not engage, bike will roll on inclines. Honda provides a parking brake lever.

To #1, one hundred thousand miles on DCTs and I never wait to warm it up. Start, drop in gear and go, no worries.
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That slim possibility happened to me the first week I had my 24 GW tour DCT. After 5 minutes of not getting it started I was ready to call the dealer. Then it started. Don’t know why. Maybe I did move it back and forth. Don’t remember.
 
My question is can I put it in neutral with the bike moving? I always coast across my driveway and up to my shed but having the DCT in gear is messing with me!
 
Donk said:
My question is can I put it in neutral with the bike moving? I always coast across my driveway and up to my shed but having the DCT in gear is messing with me!
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Not that I’m aware of.
 
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